Posted by: Jimbo Toms   

11:37pm on Wednesday, June 26th, 2002

Hey Mondo, good one! I think this California prick is an example of the stupid tendency of people to mess with other people's business. It happens from the left and right, unfortunately. If this guy doesn't want his little girl to say the pledge, she doesn't have to, there are very few schools in the country that would punish her for that (I remember a couple of kids in my school that didn't say the pledge because they were citizens of some other countries, there was no problem, just made everyone else curious). But don't blame all the lawyers for this, they don't all have their heads up their asses. These lawyers will continue the battle in the Supreme Court. At least now this will give Ashcroft something worth fighting for, instead of putting skirts on statues that embarrass his virgin eyes and scaring the bejesus out of folks by holding press conferences in Russia about possible terrorist attacks here at home. The good news is that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has no jurisdiction over the rest of the country, and it has more of its decision overturned on appeal by the Supreme Court than any other court in the United States. I would wager that by this time next year, this decision is just a bad memory.

Reply from Mondo Disgusto:
If I'm not mistaken, this ruling affects at least 9 western states including Hawaii. But, I could be (I hope I am) wrong.

Posted by: REDWOLFtheCONCHOMAN   

11:38pm on Thursday, June 27th, 2002

I agree with ya 1001%,MONDO!!!!! I did hear BUSH say that he was going to find judges with the "proper" mentality to KIBOSH this STUPID SHIT! If they don't rule the ONLY way it can go,they're out & new 1's will be sworn in! THIS SHIT AIN'T GONNA FLY!!! IS the government instigating a revolution??!! VELCUM TO ZE NEW VERLD ORDER!!! I say FTNWO & ALL THEIR STUPID SHIT!!!! LH&R where its desrved!!!

Posted by: Jimbo Toms   

11:39pm on Thursday, June 27th, 2002

You are correct, I looked it up: California, Arizona, Oregon, Nevada, Idaho, Washington, Montana, Hawaii and Alaska. Quite a mix, some of the most liberal and most conservative states in the USA. No wonder they come up with so many odd decisions.

Now, if this case had been brought in the Fourth Circuit, it would have been DOA. Of course, in Virginia, kids are required by law to say the pledge. I don't like that much, either. You can't legislate patriotism. Once do that, you just make people rebel because Americans don't like anyone telling us what to do, what to say and what to believe.

I predict a 9-0, unanimous Supreme Court opinion throwing out this stupid pledge case within 12 months. It will be an all-star battle between Ted Olson (the feds will step into this mess) and Laurence Tribe for the whiners. Maybe Bob Costas will do the play-by-play on C-SPAN (or better yet, Keith Jackson can come out of retirement to give us a "Whoa Nellie!" when Scalia slams the lower court opinion.)).

Reply from Mondo Disgusto:
Thanks Jimbo. It helps to know I'm not completely brain-dead.
Now, here is another little scrotum-snapper; The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
This means that the government cannot in any way tamper with a persons spiritual beliefs. There is nothing in the "Declaration of Independence" or the "Constitution and Bill of Rights" that says the government cannot seek the counsel of our"...CREATOR..." or use the Holy Bible for guidance.
The phrase "..separation of church and state..." came from a speech given by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 when he was the Ambassador to France, and what he was pointing out was the interferance of the Roman Catholic church in controlling countries by threatening to excommunicate any king that didn't mind the program.
What Newdow and Goodwin are doing is in VIOLATION of the CONSTITUTION and the BILL of RIGHTS.
Oh, and Mr. Jefferson also said "... GOD forbid this country go more than 5 years without a revolution, to keep the government under control...".

Posted by: Dann Bunn   

11:42pm on Thursday, June 27th, 2002

Here's what I think, I will not have our courts telling me and my children what they can't say. If you don't wnat to say something, then don't say it. But don't rule that this piss faced minority is going to rule out my words.

It is high time this country got off thier ass and do and say what the Majority rules, not what the GODDAMN minority says.

Reply from Mondo Disgusto:
Yes Dann, The abridgement of free speech is also a violation of the First Amendment. See below.

Posted by: Dann Bunn   

11:40pm on Friday, June 28th, 2002

Mondo, please see if you can publish the names of the 3 judges in the 9th circuit. We need to send them our comments and also find out if Daschel and the rest of Democratic liberial asshole voted for the Bastards, We need to use this in the campaignes against them.

Reply from Mondo Disgusto:
Dann, of the three judges, one dissented. I don't know at this time which judge was on the ball. But if you can find out, let me know, because I'd like to give the dissenting judge a verbal pat on the back. ADDENDUM; We have the names Dann, See Above!

Posted by: Jimbo Toms   

11:43pm on Friday, June 28th, 2002

I understand that the judge who wrote the opinion was appointed by President Nixon. I doubt Daschle was a Senator at the time. This just goes to prove the old point that you cannot predict how a judge is going to vote when he or she is appointed to the federal courts. Some of the most liberal Supreme Court judges in our history have been appointed by Republican presidents. Eisenhower appointed Earl Warren. Nixon appointed Blackmun (author of Roe v. Wade). Go figure.

Posted by: ANDY   

11:44pm on Saturday, June 29th, 2002

Aside from the obvious attempt at trampling on our patriotism and our rights,what about Newdow's little girl's rights? His idea is that saying "one Nation under God" is forcing a belief down his daughter's throat.But what about forcing her to beieve there is "no God".How about he let her make up her own fuckin' mind about that.Hypocrasy at it absolute worst.Newdow, yer a sorry excuse for an american,human,and father.I reckon you can kiss my rebel dick.I'm teachin' my kids the pledge,what it means and what a Republic is as opposed to a democracy
and I'm gonna do it ("Under God")Whether yuppie faggots like you like it or not!

Reply from Mondo Disgusto:
Andy, to facilitate your lessons to your kids I searched for this.
http://www.usflag.org/skeltons.pledge.html

Check it out.

Posted by: ANDY   

11:45pm on Saturday, June 29th, 2002

Red Skelton, extremely cool.I've been a fan sice I was a youngster and now I know why.Wise man.

Posted by: ANDY   

11:46pm on Monday, July 1st, 2002

By the way,those judges names are Alfred T. Goodwin,Stephan Reinhardt and Ferdinand F. Fernandez with the dissenting remarks and vote from the latter. They can be veiwed in full context at;
www.msnbc.com/news/772777.asp

Posted by: Tom in Pa.   

11:46pm on Thursday, July 4th, 2002

What about the bible to swear on in every court in this great land?